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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:05:19 PM

"Here We Go Again…
It’s come to my attention that due to the rising cost of food in America, the media people are starting up the corn wars again. This time articles are even being written by normally reputable sources like USA Today, pronouncing ethanol as the behind-the-scenes reason for the uptick in your Froot Loops and HoHos.

I admit that even with the knowledge I possess just from raising corn and living on a farm, after finishing some of these articles, I couldn’t help but wonder why people wouldn’t presume ethanol is to blame. Thankfully, we have OTHER reputable sources like, ooh I don’t know, the Farm Bureau, to refute some of these (sadly, common) misconceptions." Here we go again...the corn wars

[Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 4/8/2012 11:06:47 PM EST]
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gasdudeIL
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 9:22:34 PM

Some people are pointing their fingers at the farmers and blaming them. Like the other guy said..."profit" is not a bad word. It's their living and they have to earn.
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gasdudeIL
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2012 9:22:34 PM

Some people are pointing their fingers at the farmers and blaming them. Like the other guy said..."profit" is not a bad word. It's their living and they have to earn.
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svtmicah
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2012 6:58:29 PM

only corn on the cob for me
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:51:04 AM

Time for my corn flakes. No sugar, please, I'm sweet enough already.
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DOMFL
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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2012 3:23:02 PM

i like corn with butter
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 8:46:20 AM

GC. Finished the "Big Fix". It was top notch. I knew that oil companies has a lock on Congress, but the total amount of money spent on lobbing in oil states and Washington is out of control.

Is is no wonder that sooo many have come out against ethanol. A few million here and a few million more somewhere else and the brain washing is complete. Just look at the comments in here. Most people do not have a clue, they are only repeating what they hear.

Have you noticed the connection with big oil and big drug companies? Total domination. J.D. Rockefeller really laid the ground work and so far has succeeded in fooling a good part of America.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 7:54:50 AM

to rjrjr

One fuel monopoly + lies and propaganda by oil + 10 times more powerful OIL LOBBY = Screwed Consumer


[Edited by: Hannie59 at 6/13/2012 8:55:53 AM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 7:40:45 AM

ethanolbob, would ddqs be consumed by people?
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rjrjr
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2012 7:36:34 AM

Corn Corn Corn + Strong Lobby = Screwed Consumer
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 2:02:31 AM

It really doesn't matter what you do with the corn. Brutal regimes will still keep the corn and other food from the poor and hungry.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 7:39:09 PM

"corn is for eatting....

the amount of corn for ethanol could stop world hunger "

If the amount of corn used for ethanol was suddenly freed up, thousands of tonnes of corn would rot this year and the acreage planted would just be dropped next year, supplanted by whatever else they could sell. Corn farmers aren't charities any more than any other business.
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ethanolbob
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 9:54:10 AM

"corn is for eatting....

the amount of corn for ethanol could stop world hunger "

Perhaps you should send them a million tons of ddgs.
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 6:17:08 PM

Silverstreaker...yeah...what about those golf courses. That could be considered a huge waste of land! Hmmm

I hope that that none of the anti ethanol people play golf...
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jamieg2012
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 4:44:36 PM

i agree with silverstreaker

since clothes take away land for growing food then we must give up on wearing clothes since then we can use the cotton land to grow other things

also we must give up growing rubber plants so no more tires on our cars and other things using rubber so we can use that land to grow food

and how about no more non farm businesses or houses since they use land that could be used to grow food

i can go on and on with what we have to give up just to make the world work the way you want - then again not really since you also want to keep wearing clothes and have a house to live in so you just keep taking away land that could be used to grow food
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 4:36:55 PM

emtrob2012 says "the amount of corn for ethanol could stop world hunger"

I sympathise with the hungry, but do you really want to feed the #2 yellow dent corn used to make ethanol to the hungry? Or do you want to require farmers to grow another crop instead? What about cotton farmers? Should they be required to grow only edible crops? Should we also require golf courses and people with lawns to grow crops instead of grass? Lets not stop there, we have all that land next to freeways, parkland, forests, etc.
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emtrob2012
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 2:00:58 PM

corn is for eatting....

the amount of corn for ethanol could stop world hunger
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jamieg2012
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 10:33:19 AM

news is not really news

they claim to just present the facts but they always have a way of telling so called facts in a way that makes things fit their twisted version and even make people think laws is what the law really is not if you take the time to actually read it

these so called news places really piss me off the way they do things
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tailpipeFL
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 11:59:09 PM

Farmers only grow crops that are profitable legally in this country. Profit is not a dirty word. That being said,did drivers and consumers benefit? What of all the benefits promised us? All the assurances! Did any of them happen? Did the U.S.benefit locally or globally? Did the Emirates quake in their boots when this was was originally announced? Will they quake at all with the 15% announcement? Will we permanently accept being penalized $100.00 approx. currently and more when price per gallon keeps going up? Why is total tax near $1.00 per gallon at the pump. Why is the road infrastructure so poorly cared for with our highest road tax in history? Why were we told we can never have $2.00 gas again like it was when he got elected? Why are they building more and more Toll roads why are they even now thinking out loud of privatizing them? Did this happen before? Did the roads deteriorate and become dangerous to safe travel? Did this help to throw the nation into the Great Depression?Did Washington with great bluster and aplomb reposess all the roads that were originally ours and solemnly promise it could not,would not ever happen again? Why would you think we don't like farmers and the food he grows for our tables,the best anywhere in the world? Why would you worry about us? Why do you think the biggies in the seed bus. tell you what you'll buy and how much and shut-up about DNA or else. Why should we worry about threats to our health by eating corn even if we loved it lifelong?Why wouldn't we choose to abstain for quality of life? Why can't you understand,it's not personal.
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 11:22:36 PM

goldseeker....I know that they do. The high price of gas is raising food prices....knuckleheads.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 11:11:05 PM

gamechanger: You should know by now that the ethanol haters blame everything on ethanol. If we have bad weather, they will somehow try to blame it on ethanol. If you had a flat tire, it also would be blamed on ethanol.
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