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Subsidize This: US Eyes Tariffs on Chinese Solar Panels, But What Gets Protected?

Firedoglake -- While trade is often a bone of contention between the U.S. and China, this week’s visit by Chinese V. President Xi Jinping threw the spotlight on one subset of that battle that could have far-reaching effects well in excess of the raw dollar amounts at stake.

At issue is a complaint filed by a solar industry trade group, the Coalition for American Solar Manufacturing asking that the US government impose tariffs on Chinese solar panels. CASM wants the duties for what it claims are unfair subsidies by China that make Chinese solar products substantially cheaper than those offered by many US competitors.

indicate the federal govt set to weigh in on the side of US solar energy companies in this brewing trade war, and so make a stand for domestic green energy manufacturing and good-paying job


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DEG
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:40:28 PM

It will only increase the price of solar panels to the US consumer.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:36:43 PM

Keep working on solar, no matter...
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ropegun11: "...President Obama is a very good orator, wordsmith, spin-artist, etc...but then, so was Adolf Hitler...In reality, the actual "change" for the American people is less than "hope"ful... :/"

Congrats on invoking Godwins law (use of the Reductio ad Hitlerem argument). The thread can now be closed as having quickly reached rock bottom for discussion quality.

Wikipedia - Reductio ad Hitlerum
Godwin's Law

[Edited by: rx7racerca at 2/19/2012 9:36:33 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:35:19 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:34:11 PM

How much lead paint is in one of those Chicom solar panels?
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:32:08 PM

ok
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skyking19
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:31:19 PM

Trade traiffs are a double edged sword. This is a tuff one.
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rx7racerca
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:30:03 PM

Better would be if action had been taken before Solyndra and other US solar firms with top-drawer tech started to fail, but the US seems to have been caught unaware it was in the midst of a trade war until the US solar industry began to suffer its own "Pearl Harbor".

I do agree with the writer - since fossil fuels and nuclear, for example, get ample subsidies and tax breaks, a better approach is to subsidize US solar manufacturers to make them competitive with the Chinese, rather than use tariffs, which would mean less alternative, renewable energy. Which also isn't in the best interest of the States, in a world where $100+/bbl oil seems to be the new floor price.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:30:02 PM

hmmmmm
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:29:19 PM

...President Obama is a very good orator, wordsmith, spin-artist, etc...but then, so was Adolf Hitler...In reality, the actual "change" for the American people is less than "hope"ful... :/



[Edited by: ropegun11 at 2/19/2012 9:31:27 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:28:38 PM

Really!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:25:24 PM

solar schmolar - the US companys took Huseins (Taxpayers) money
now they're crying
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:23:52 PM

OK
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my2002m
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:23:41 PM

All US subsidies need to end.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:23:40 PM

I agree entirely with Taurus1!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:20:34 PM

Anything imported should have a tariff. Even US products made outside the US should have an import tax.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:18:39 PM

Obama's only looking at this issue due to a re-election year.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:17:55 PM

stop subsidies
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:17:32 PM

Charge the blip out of Chinese crap !! Cap this !
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:12:27 PM

subsidies never end well
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:11:56 PM

Remove ALL subsidies. That means those for farmers too.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:58:41 PM

ENOUGH!!!! NO SUBSIDIES!!!!!! The Chinese will just screw us back.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:58:01 PM

do we really want the inferior quality of chinese products?
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:55:55 PM

Why all the solar companys obama gave Tax Payers money to took the money an ran!

[Edited by: toadNY at 2/19/2012 8:56:12 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:52:50 PM

The Chinese cheat. It's a fact of life.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:51:29 PM

MORE POLITICS ... AND NO MAJOR MEANINGFUL "CHANGE"
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:50:46 PM

We shouldn't subsidize anything.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:50:37 PM

Need to do something to ensure fair trade.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:49:02 PM

More tariffs are needed on all Chinese products.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:48:07 PM

yup
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:47:57 PM

What another obummer error! NO SUBSIDIES!!! Just don't do it.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:47:46 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:45:32 PM

unfair
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:43:16 PM

i agree unfair
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:39:18 PM

Tariffs for unfair subsidies and inferior products.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:36:42 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:36:00 PM

It will all end in higher prices for the consumer.
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Obama wears me down.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:30:41 PM

let the market decide
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:30:16 PM

?
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:26:21 PM

As long as the subsidy money is not used to loan money to companies that say...donate to obamas re-election campaign. Not that this would ever happen!

[Edited by: 76chevy at 2/19/2012 8:26:45 PM EST]
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they need to get rid of trade agreements.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:19:01 PM

put tariff on this & that--I'm paying lots more for my tags for my 1994 pickup.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:18:56 PM

Protectionist trade policies will come back to bite consumers in the long run. Though it sounds good to "save American jobs" what it means is mandated higher prices. Certain people have the luxury of choosing to pay more for an American-made good, but others need to buy at the best price even if it's foreign-made. Enacting tariffs is taking away other people's choice about what they prefer to spend their money on -- it is immoral.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:17:15 PM

I agree with most of what everyone says.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:14:29 PM

Good!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:12:46 PM

ok
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Bring the jobs back to America and their won't be any tariffs. Too hard for our simple lawmakers.
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China dumps a tremendous amount of junk on our shores.
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ok
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:04:58 PM

and this has what to do with gas or cars or ???
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ok
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