honda0105
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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:50:26 AM
one has to wonder, what have they done w/ all the other money that has come into the coffers?
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minookaband
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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:34:11 PM
how does Missouri keep up with road funds with the lowest gas tax?
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my2002m
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Tulsa
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:08:17 PM
Taxes are going up on everything. Time to bring spending under control.
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bell05
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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:39:17 PM
Boy, bad timing for any tax increase.
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QualTekGuy
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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:45:16 PM
Any tax increase is a tough sell. On top of the FICA increase, it's going to be even tougher.
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goinwgas
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Oregon
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 1:45:08 PM
add 10 cents to Iowa's gas tax, it's still cheaper than where i live
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ultm8opie
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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:38:54 AM
ok
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WaWanderer
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Washington
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:36:47 AM
Why is it that most state legislators are always looking for a new way to stick their hands in our pockets? Why can’t they try harder to show that they are responsible managers of our tax money and just start spending what they get on what they have promised?
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Ticobird
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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:36:08 AM
Increasing any state tax is a "tough sell" especially if you don't have enough reasons or evidence to support the increase. Voters aren't mindless idiots that vote only their pocketbooks although they do watch their finances closely. If a case for increased state taxes is properly made/proven then they'll vote for it.
Oh, by the way, is this the same Iowa demographics that wields so much more influence over national politics? If so, it appears Iowa state politicians have not discovered how to persuade their own voters of the need for state road infrastructure improvements yet these very same voters are smart enough to influence national politics? How is this possible? Oh, I know, Iowa residents will eventually use their national political clout to extract a disproportional amount of national taxes to pay for their state road improvements.
Sorry Iowa. I must be in a bad mood today.
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Chitowner
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Omaha
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:30:27 AM
I live in NE and go to Iowa for gasoline it is always 10 cents cheaper it they change that goodby Iowa
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RQCraig
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Texas
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:30:17 AM
Where is the accountability for the money currently being raised by the existing fuel taxes?
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deaconjones
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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:28:50 AM
then drop the 10 cent increase and go with a 5 cent one.....might be more palatable......
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rjoeh
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:24:06 AM
I agree... most states need to improve their infrastructures... BUT, what usually happens is that the pace of re-doing repairs step up for a while, but the quality of the work drops and the tax never goes away. It just gets raised again in a few years claiming there are not enough funds to do the job. We've had at least 3 bumps in our gas tax in Michigan in the last decade or so... and we still have pathetic roads.
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Bigoilscamsus20
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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:23:47 AM
NightRider-- you don't have to wonder any more--- Gas Buddy is bank rolled by Big Oil and PD is their number one propagandist!
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ERO
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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:22:41 AM
More taxation= more WASTE
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DatThao
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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:21:58 AM
More tax = More fixed roads/bridges
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Jamer
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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:21:04 AM
As it should be. People are getting tired of being taxed to death.
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bearzz
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California
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:19:37 AM
I believe that most state gas tax funds are probably misused, as it is in CA and by the federal government.
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YodaON
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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:18:53 AM
As long as it is put to good use you don't mind
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Holly123
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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:18:51 AM
Okay ....
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sdiddydaddy
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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:18:36 AM
a tough pill to swallow, but probably necessary.
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nehemiah
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Portland
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:18:35 AM
any tax is a hard sell
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#12#_vabchusa
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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:17:30 AM
If the gas tax is acutally used to improve roads, i would agree.
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NightRider
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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:15:50 AM
"dieselme2011 - As long as it is used to fix the roadways there is nothing wrong with it. " You just summarized the problem in a nutshell. I don't think there is any confidence that the money collected from fuel taxes has all been used for road maintenance. There needs to be a full accounting of what has been collected and what it has been used for. I don't think that will happen. Some people would probably go to jail.
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ClancyME
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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:12:58 AM
Gee, maybe your revenues are going over the border to MO? Is it really the governor, or just the dumb legislature wanting more money to waste?
[Edited by: ClancyME at 1/17/2013 12:14:19 PM EST]
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sdslim
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Florida
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:12:54 AM
All vehicles need to pay for the infrastructure improvements.
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mel48
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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:11:38 AM
Well....our illlustrious Gov. who I voted for wants to raise out gas tax and raise the price on vehicle registration after cutting pensions and making a deal w/ Canada to build a new bridge. He won't get my vote the next time around!
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dieselme2011
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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:10:30 AM
As long as it is used to fix the roadways there is nothing wrong with it.
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TXGasPriceSpy
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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:10:19 AM
Not again today!!!
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munkeyciao
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Quad Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:10:15 AM
While I'd say the roads need it, I'd also advocate them finding a way to do it that actually is cost effective. I've never seen road projects take so long as they do here, and the repairs don't even last a full year before they need to do the same six month project again.
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Sethyl
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Miami
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:10:09 AM
earmarked funds don't really go where they should. Good idea on paper, but not very likely to succeed in reality
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BigOyl
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Wichita
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:09:31 AM
LOL! That's exactly what the Leftists want Digger!
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mickealo
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Spokane
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:09:05 AM
if you saw that your roads were better it would seem worth it but they are not Washington state is one of the highest and our roads are no better so why is that waste I'd say
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traumer
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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:09:03 AM
They just want to tax us to death and not stop their stupid over spending!!!!!
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DarthDadJr
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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:08:34 AM
The roads are not going to fix themselves...the money has to come from somewhere.
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njerald
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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:08:18 AM
Shove your gas tax increase...........
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Snowchoux
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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:07:55 AM
Take a vote on it.
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Digger52
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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:07:45 AM
Why not just take everyone's paycheck and give them an allowance so the gov't can keep the rest??
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nanu4u21
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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:07:36 AM
Everyone wants to add more taxes
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wang91554
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San Jose
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:07:23 AM
people are just used to tax cuts and yet expect more government services.
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Double_Golden
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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:06:44 AM
who like tax hike, especially u don't know what their will used for...
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Lakeficsh
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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:06:31 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmmm...........
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NightRider
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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:03:54 AM
"barbs24 - Everyone who is against it needs to come up with a better idea " Many people have already said cut spending, eliminate waste, cronyism, etc. How many more ideas do you need?
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CocoPaz
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Santa Barbara
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:03:54 AM
Tax in France is 19.4%. Tell me that we aren't going in that direction...
Big storm in Munich, where my flight is going to from Lyon. So I'm unexpectedly stuck in Lyon for another night. Eegggggggghhhhhhhhh.
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ciimike
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Nevada
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:02:05 AM
Any additional tax is a tough sell these days.
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Bigtex09
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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:00:43 AM
sometime sooner or later govt officials are going to have to learn that there just isn't enough monies to do all they want to do considering so many don't pay any taxes...
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NightRider
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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:59:02 AM
bigoilscamsus, good point. I've wondered whether GB is an apologist site for Big Oil.
[Edited by: NightRider at 1/17/2013 12:00:30 PM EST]
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GManCo
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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:58:27 AM
Old news.
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barbs24
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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:58:23 AM
Everyone who is against it needs to come up with a better idea
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CptnCanada
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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:58:03 AM
Remove the waste that most politicians feel they have to have and you will have a surplus
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