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Canada Spends Big to Save GM, So Why Not Mexico?

TIME -- At time when the U.S. and Canada are pouring tens of billions of dollars into General Motors Corp. to give the bankrupt automaker a new lease on life, why is Mexico flying under the radar?

Last month when Washington and Ottawa pledged to invest $60 billion in Detroit's biggest car company, Mexico — a partner in NAFTA and an integrated North-American auto industry — was conspicuous by its absence at the negotiating table.

That's more than a little surprising when you consider that Mexico has overtaken Canada in production of GM vehicles, making such popular name plates as the Chevy Silverado and Suburban. Last year GM made a total of 504,858 vehicles at four assembly plants in Mexico; that's 9% higher than the 463,869 cars and light trucks produced by GM Canada.

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Submitted Jul 04, 2009 By: JOHNNY95206

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Ducky_NS Veteran Author Halifax Posts:290 Points:251,550 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 8:15:01 AM Ignore Ducky_NS Report Abuse You can thank the greedy unions for driving wages so high and thus the operating costs in Canada and the US of A.
BH24 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:4,930 Points:1,116,675 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:22:14 AM Ignore BH24 Report Abuse The article poses a very fair question. And while they're at it why not ask if they're planning to fund welfare programs for their citizens rather than expecting neighbor countries to assume that burden?
RocketGeek Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:8,251 Points:1,647,885 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:44:59 AM Ignore RocketGeek Report Abuse Mexico seems to want the US to fund their needs. Why would they pitch in even if it makes business sense?
spiderjay Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,314 Points:960,955 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:43:09 AM Ignore spiderjay Report Abuse HELL FREEZES OVER FASTER THAN THIS IS WHY MEXICO ISNT TAKING CHARGE
ICUUCME Sophomore Author Ohio Posts:245 Points:1,511,950 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:42:59 AM Ignore ICUUCME Report Abuse Threaten to take the jobs out of Mexico and watch them join in.
demondude Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,809 Points:1,628,700 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:14:43 AM Ignore demondude Report Abuse this is a good article.
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:5,970 Points:1,225,205 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:50:26 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Low to no union costs are the reason. GM Mexico is in the black. You don't need a bailout if your are profitable.
FastAndy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:4,409 Points:1,579,385 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:45:10 PM Ignore FastAndy Report Abuse Their should be a penalty for Mexico, but they know that it is cheaper for GM to build in Mexico and Obama will take care of bailing GM out.
kelsielee Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,389 Points:672,025 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:35:23 PM Ignore kelsielee Report Abuse All the American car companies have plants in Mexico (including Ford). With UAW wages so high, it makes more and more economic sense to use Mexico for much of their manufacturing.
caddilac Champion Author Ontario Posts:13,806 Points:1,675,730 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:47:19 PM Ignore caddilac Report Abuse If Mexico doesn't chip in then Canada should put a high sales tax on the Chevy Silverado and Suburban, and any other GM vehicle that isn't made in Canada. I wasn't asked if I was in favour of giving GM any of my tax money. If I had my say I would have said to let GM either sink or get out of this mess all by themselves. The Canadian taxpayer didn't get GM into the mess they are in, and the Canadian taxpayer shouldn't have to rescue GM.
us412 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:18,323 Points:1,959,225 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:43:20 PM Ignore us412 Report Abuse Mexico hasn't been lobotomized by Obama yet.
RobRD Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,828 Points:896,020 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:38:08 PM Ignore RobRD Report Abuse It is a high price for Canada to pay for so few jobs.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,755 Points:2,060,640 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:34:25 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse HATE TO SAY IT. But why should they. The auto maker is happy to build cars there with low wages, minimal regulations, no employee benefits and no penalty to bring products north of the border. So the country has no need to do more.
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,502 Points:1,449,990 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:27:54 PM Ignore papou Report Abuse they are saving their oun economy, the Mex's will wait for the illegals to send mony back to Mexico
silverfox63 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,819 Points:1,158,695 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:27:48 PM Ignore silverfox63 Report Abuse Maybe it's time we pulled out our manufacture base out of Mexico.
buggydeb Champion Author Florida Posts:6,285 Points:1,202,060 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:24:36 PM Ignore buggydeb Report Abuse It's typical of Mexico to bail..
Bud122CA Champion Author California Posts:5,233 Points:1,149,860 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:23:14 PM Ignore Bud122CA Report Abuse They are smart enough to let things happen and not get involved.
rocket_up Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:1,365 Points:328,335 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:22:59 PM Ignore rocket_up Report Abuse Mexico just doesn't care.
eddyp94 Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,768 Points:1,384,810 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:20:57 PM Ignore eddyp94 Report Abuse mexico knows its still cheaper to build in their country...
gabbygusIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,896 Points:1,095,900 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:19:22 PM Ignore gabbygusIN Report Abuse Close the border now!
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,042 Points:1,219,535 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:13:55 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse Mexico will suffer again. They are trying to undercut Canada and the US and take industry for cheap wages. It will backfire.
blink25 All-Star Author Missouri Posts:943 Points:296,155 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 3:29:48 PM Ignore blink25 Report Abuse because they are smart,,,,GM done this to themselves....let them figure out how to get out of it on their own
jjjleblanc Champion Author Rochester Posts:4,360 Points:1,102,495 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 3:25:17 PM Ignore jjjleblanc Report Abuse As long as they know the labor is cheap, they'll not change a thing.
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,764 Points:1,680,040 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 3:03:26 PM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse Because why should they we are doing it for them.
krell58 Champion Author Missouri Posts:7,402 Points:1,475,320 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:55:58 PM Ignore krell58 Report Abuse That's where Chrysler is going too.
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:7,030 Points:1,371,160 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:55:42 PM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse need to take the job out and close the border
Wildman14 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,592 Points:628,995 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:51:34 PM Ignore Wildman14 Report Abuse Great. (Why would Mexico want to pay for anything when the American tax payer can cover it for them whether we (the American Tax payer) want to or not.) [Edited by: Wildman14 at 7/4/2009 3:52:08 PM EST]
Tucker1961 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,521 Points:235,215 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:50:52 PM Ignore Tucker1961 Report Abuse I think Mexico should have all of GM's production and Debt and the Exec's can go as well.
kidrockTX Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,854 Points:508,370 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:50:41 PM Ignore kidrockTX Report Abuse if mexico does not help move the companys back here. we need the damn jobs and it is our money that obama used to do this B.S.
w4kh Champion Author Riverside Posts:9,326 Points:1,765,100 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:49:53 PM Ignore w4kh Report Abuse Mexico as a trading partner? Not who I would want backing me up were I GM... and not surprising, either...
buckoMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,240 Points:711,950 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:46:00 PM Ignore buckoMD Report Abuse With low priced, non-union labor, where else is GM going to go?
stugha Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:2,174 Points:267,465 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:43:51 PM Ignore stugha Report Abuse Because Mexico knows thy'll get it for ZIP.
kruk Champion Author London Posts:2,996 Points:349,325 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:40:27 PM Ignore kruk Report Abuse guess GM loves mexicans - they give them jobs they not even asking for any money - now is time that GM sells in Mexico or they can sit on inventory Mexican government must be much smarter then US and Canadian together [Edited by: kruk at 7/4/2009 3:42:06 PM EST]
Paw5X Champion Author Gary Posts:7,764 Points:1,880,570 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:35:34 PM Ignore Paw5X Report Abuse Would not trust Mexico anyway!
snewwee Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,181 Points:1,250,000 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:31:52 PM Ignore snewwee Report Abuse The mexicans are probably thinking, "Why kill a good thing"?
korklenut All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:755 Points:153,655 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:26:38 PM Ignore korklenut Report Abuse THey want our dollars and thats all.
heocon Champion Author Riverside Posts:6,597 Points:1,226,975 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:26:11 PM Ignore heocon Report Abuse a little surpising, but labor cost are much cheaper in mexico
hibsaw Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,686 Points:1,217,990 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:26:06 PM Ignore hibsaw Report Abuse Damn if you do and damn if you don't. Neither the US nor Canada had the money to help out GM, but they did.
ssect8 Champion Author Hartford Posts:5,629 Points:1,665,880 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:22:16 PM Ignore ssect8 Report Abuse I guess the US wasn't the only stupid country.
hoosierdaddyno1 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,257 Points:886,265 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:19:29 PM Ignore hoosierdaddyno1 Report Abuse Yea why not Mexico or any other country in the world.
ilderton All-Star Author London Posts:529 Points:1,115,050 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 2:04:12 PM Ignore ilderton Report Abuse it make sence, mexico is much cheaper to build & no unions.
Speedy1W1 All-Star Author Madison Posts:578 Points:150,740 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:57:11 PM Ignore Speedy1W1 Report Abuse We all knew that MEXICO would take over the failing GM vehicle line. It was only a matter of time.
mooneagle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:7,115 Points:1,296,560 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:56:49 PM Ignore mooneagle Report Abuse I sure canada think they done the wright thing. But I know Mexico did the wright thing.
Minster Champion Author Wichita Posts:2,236 Points:841,965 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:56:06 PM Ignore Minster Report Abuse if mexico dose not help they should move back to the us or canada.
BburgCW Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,706 Points:797,530 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:52:35 PM Ignore BburgCW Report Abuse Wow. Amazing amount of racism represented by posters here. Do you all treat people of other ethnic backgrounds this way to their faces?
REKEY Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,221 Points:1,236,505 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:52:14 PM Ignore REKEY Report Abuse No one is left in Mexico to run the plant, they are all in the US.
bassandvols Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,363 Points:238,040 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:51:15 PM Ignore bassandvols Report Abuse They've dumped their trash across our border for decades, why help us now?!?
Siddie1926 Veteran Author Houston Posts:438 Points:133,945 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:46:46 PM Ignore Siddie1926 Report Abuse Mexico dumps all of its problems on the Us and never does a think to help us or anyone else. isn't it interesting we are supporting so many of their citizens and all we have is talk about this and things never change. Look what happened to California.
micpie Veteran Author Oregon Posts:465 Points:117,115 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:43:40 PM Ignore micpie Report Abuse I agree w/ roadkillga! You are very wise.
eagleeye2008 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:6,654 Points:1,274,415 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:41:14 PM Ignore eagleeye2008 Report Abuse MEXICO TRUELY MUST BE A COUNTRY OF "TAKERS"---NOT "GIVERS" !!!!!