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Congress has Little Time to Get Resolution Done for Auto Dea

Detroit News - Auto Insider -- More than four months after the House voted to reverse the closing of more than 2,000 auto dealerships, time is running short to get a deal done this year.

GM and Chrysler and many members of Congress want a "non-legislative fix." The Obama administration also opposes efforts to reverse the dealer closings. One proposal is to have some arbitration process for an unspecified number of the closing dealers

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Submitted Nov 18, 2009 By: fordmexico

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bobdec Champion Author Florida Posts:6,736 Points:1,328,515 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2009 11:30:07 PM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Just leave open the ones who show a profit. Close the others
BH24 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:4,930 Points:1,116,675 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2009 5:42:04 AM Ignore BH24 Report Abuse If the government had gotten started earlier in the act of propping up business enterprises that were faltering, we'd very likely have surviving companies making Conestoga wagons, producing whale oil, and conducting cattle drives across the Western plains.
bobdec Champion Author Florida Posts:6,736 Points:1,328,515 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 20, 2009 12:28:23 AM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse No suprise Obama still wants to keep the dealers who financed his campagin the upper hand
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:43,431 Points:1,716,005 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:45:12 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse DEG wrote: >Obama's henchman closed all the dealerships that didn't >provide campaign funding for Obama. Got any proof of that or was this thought just passing gas? >That was politics at its worst. No, politics at is worst would be electing John McCain.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:43,431 Points:1,716,005 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:41:30 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse abcdMA wrote: >I'mnot sure why the administration wants to close out >privte dealerships Small, struggling dealerships can't give buyers the customer experience the manufacturer would like to have. Toyota never let their dealer network get bloated.
dbatw Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,686 Points:341,165 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:40:22 PM Ignore dbatw Report Abuse it used to be called a "business decision". Now that our foolish government has bailed these loosers out, every pundit, every tin horn legislator from the state house to both houses of congress thinks he or she should have some say as to how these loosers are going to try to survive. We should have let them sink or swim. Nobody bailed out my local independent pharmacy when Walmart put it out of business. 'Course, Walmart owns so many lobbyists that nobody opposes them...
rodzilla123 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,454 Points:621,055 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:26:00 PM Ignore rodzilla123 Report Abuse Whats taking so long for the OBAMASLOB Administration to put people out of work and on to the Public dole, keeping them dependant on the Government?? Ill bet KING HUSANE-OBAMASLOB is opposed to efforts to reverse the dealer closings. Anything els would go against his plan to destroy this country and take control.
Insp0999 All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:707 Points:266,160 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:16:59 PM Ignore Insp0999 Report Abuse This should not be a Congressional decision.
Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,553 Points:1,234,045 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:12:50 PM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse Since when did the government get into the automobile business? They need to stick to running the country into the ground.
jimgraham Champion Author Akron Posts:7,981 Points:1,517,820 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:11:20 PM Ignore jimgraham Report Abuse Government should protect our borders, not Big Business.
mvosevich Champion Author St. Louis Posts:5,453 Points:1,108,165 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:04:05 PM Ignore mvosevich Report Abuse 59 million people didn't vote for Obama for good reason.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:5,887 Points:1,290,185 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:03:58 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse another goof?
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:6,484 Points:1,920,015 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:03:15 PM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse This still doesn't seem to be workin' well-duh!
WCCurtis Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:3,304 Points:1,364,995 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 10:01:56 PM Ignore WCCurtis Report Abuse So much for Obama's promise to save or create jobs. We already have 15 million without jobs in this Country and He wants to put more people out of work.
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,929 Points:1,281,405 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:55:33 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Right on krisli.
ILANGE9 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,210 Points:1,135,650 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:47:28 PM Ignore ILANGE9 Report Abuse The government should never have gotten involved in the first place. This wouldn't even be an issue or in the news if they'd just let capitalism work.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:5,639 Points:1,119,000 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:47:11 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse I'mnot sure why the administration wants to close out privte dealerships
jtfftj All-Star Author New Hampshire Posts:991 Points:827,310 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:32:28 PM Ignore jtfftj Report Abuse A year from now, we will be trying to get something done to keep doctor's offices open.
lisamls Veteran Author Sacramento Posts:398 Points:90,830 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:29:38 PM Ignore lisamls Report Abuse $$
NavyStore Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,769 Points:1,663,185 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:27:06 PM Ignore NavyStore Report Abuse Hey DEG - Do you have any evidence of that? Nope?? Didn't think so. Always fun to see the Party of NO just keep passing lies like they were actually worth something...
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,078 Points:1,349,515 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:26:04 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse I don't understand the reason for closing so many dealers. A distribution network is key to sales. Fewer dealers means fewer points of sales and sales to me, but what do I know. If the reason for declining market share of the (formerly) big three was the dealers, then yes, close some of them up. But they weren't to blame. The blame goes to the arrogant, high paid executives in their ivory towers making bad, short sighted decisions. GM made obscene profits in the 80's even when their market share was declining, making all those cookies cutter models which had only cosmetic differentiation between the models.
hwnguy Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,580 Points:1,024,940 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:24:42 PM Ignore hwnguy Report Abuse Let the economy dictate things for once
OilBGone Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,565 Points:1,253,750 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:19:00 PM Ignore OilBGone Report Abuse I think the government should give free health care to the former employees of the closed dealerships. Nyuck, nyuck.
OilBGone Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,565 Points:1,253,750 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:17:17 PM Ignore OilBGone Report Abuse You know, there might be paranoid schizophrenics lurking on these boards.
Somis1 Champion Author Ventura Posts:11,171 Points:2,167,140 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:16:47 PM Ignore Somis1 Report Abuse I'm sure Congress can better decide if those 2,000 dealerships ought to be open or not. Our government is pathetic.
eaglev Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,254 Points:785,820 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:16:32 PM Ignore eaglev Report Abuse This country was built on capitalism not on government intervention. They should not have started this mess of bailouts.
dollarwatcher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:5,575 Points:1,072,095 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:16:07 PM Ignore dollarwatcher Report Abuse Voteing then acting on are two different things and this article is out of Detroit.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,320 Points:1,194,855 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:14:19 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse You know DEG it's scary but you might be right about this.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,320 Points:1,194,855 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:13:01 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse I thought that Obamma said that the US Gov would be hands off the rescued car companies?
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:15,422 Points:3,059,355 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:09:51 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Obama's henchman closed all the dealerships that didn't provide campaign funding for Obama. That was politics at its worst. [Edited by: DEG at 11/18/2009 10:10:10 PM EST]
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:6,810 Points:689,170 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:02:37 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse The government shouldn't be in anybodies business.
JCS319 Champion Author Tacoma Posts:15,000 Points:2,079,330 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:00:30 PM Ignore JCS319 Report Abuse And just how would you know 1006? Care to elaborate? Yeah, I didn't think so.
GasHound2009 Veteran Author Dallas Posts:292 Points:110,555 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:59:31 PM Ignore GasHound2009 Report Abuse Good grief...
1006 All-Star Author Birmingham Posts:931 Points:1,031,185 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:51:30 PM Ignore 1006 Report Abuse The #(*@& proposed health is worse.
DosEquis26 Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,773 Points:1,545,470 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:48:03 PM Ignore DosEquis26 Report Abuse Our current health care system is terrible.
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,170 Points:1,003,480 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:48:00 PM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse Government should not be in the car business or any other. Every time government gets involved they mess things up.
SS396RS All-Star Author Sacramento Posts:899 Points:622,795 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:46:38 PM Ignore SS396RS Report Abuse When they get their hands on health care we are in a big world of hurt.
Chitowner Champion Author Omaha Posts:3,162 Points:876,645 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:45:02 PM Ignore Chitowner Report Abuse the government cannot run anything right, oh wait fraud works very nicely in the federal government
14of45SSR Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:2,370 Points:831,290 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:42:02 PM Ignore 14of45SSR Report Abuse Isn't that going back on their deal?!?!?!?! Reverse the deal of the shares then too!
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:6,505 Points:1,388,710 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:25:53 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Obama's plan was un-American as it is taking away the incentives for anyone to open and operate a small business. THis is communism at it's finest.
jjjleblanc Champion Author Rochester Posts:4,361 Points:1,103,465 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:23:59 PM Ignore jjjleblanc Report Abuse The rush to close dealers seemed to be a knee jerk reaction.
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:6,713 Points:1,284,305 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:08:30 PM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse Huge ditto to sillywagon. These DC morons are useless and clueless. Can't wait for the next election to make our statements as voters.
hangupanddrive Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,076 Points:1,217,700 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:04:41 PM Ignore hangupanddrive Report Abuse The honeymoon is over, time to start working.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:10,870 Points:1,008,020 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 8:02:20 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse These liberals in Government disgust me! Always propping up big business' at the expense of small business' like these dealers.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:3,357 Points:1,116,855 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:54:36 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse They want yours and my money but don't you dare tell them how to spend it. They should have gone under in the first place and then maybe they would learn how to run a business instead of stealing from it.
pgerassi Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:8,536 Points:1,669,900 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:53:37 PM Ignore pgerassi Report Abuse More competition is better. So why the push for fewer dealers? Bigger isn't better.
Bartboro Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,040 Points:662,645 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:51:49 PM Ignore Bartboro Report Abuse I think it's unfortuanate that congress was ever involved in the car business.
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:5,710 Points:1,110,640 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:48:30 PM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse WHAT'S WRONG, ISN'T THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE GETTING ENOUGH PAYOFF SO THAT THEY WILL REVERSE THE DEALER CLOSINGS? HOW MUCH DO THEY WANT?
MINER Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:8,960 Points:2,585,815 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:45:41 PM Ignore MINER Report Abuse What a short memory, I do remember reading 10 years or so ago that the manufacturers were trying to close their smaller dealerships. They wanted more of the so called megadealers, thats when a lot of movement in the dealers ranks. Merging just like the Oil companys. Only with dealers merging with other dealers. I think around then the dealers with all brands started showing up. Prior to then you never seen a Chevy dealer also selling Fords...
kettle Sophomore Author Yakima Posts:117 Points:1,551,010 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:40:45 PM Ignore kettle Report Abuse Obama needs to stay out of the car business! He doesn't know any more than I do about the car business !! And that's not very much !!!