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Europe Won’t Match U.S. Shale Boom Soon to Gazprom’s Relief

bloomberg.com -- Pumping natural gas trapped in shale rock has made the U.S. the world’s largest producer of the fuel. While geologists say Europe may have similar fields spread from northwest England to Ukraine, drilling them profitably will prove a whole lot harder.

Getting the shale gas out requires drilling hundreds of wells and blasting the rock with water and chemicals, raising environmental objections in densely populated Europe. Those obstacles suggest Russia’s OAO Gazprom, supplier of 25 percent of Europe’s gas, will have plenty of customers for its fuel pumped through new pipelines across the Baltic and Black Seas.

“There is a great future for Russian gas in Europe,” John Barry, a strategic issues manager at Royal Dutch Shell Plc, said in an interview. “There is a lot of unconventional



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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 10:32:08 PM


The problem with Fracking NG wells is the after effects....whether here in the US or Russia. We have discussed before the problem with Fracking Fluids and their damage to wildlife and cattle, but the biggest issue is how Fracking effect Mother Earth.

When you essentially blow apart underground rock with extreme pressure from fluids, the result after NG is extracted are Voids in previously solid rock.

Here in the Oil Patch...we are seeing increasing incidents of earthquakes in the 3-4 level. Now several times a month, when normally we saw them a couple of time per year. Not high enough to do damage, but certainly a wake-up call if you have not had earthquakes on a regular basis. We need to be very careful how and where we frack.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 5:11:22 AM

tea4-2: I guess they're letting Russia pollute herself and consider their own areas to be staying clean. Not the worst of strategies.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 9:38:53 PM

The US will drill anywhere any company thinks they can make a spare buck.
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 3:23:55 PM


I applaud the common sense of the Europeans.

The GAS is THERE.

The current fracting methods are very damaging to the environment and have been shown time and time again to pollute local WELLS and WATER supplies.

The GAS IS STILL THERE.

Waiting.

AND, will still be there when improved, less toxic, less hazardous methods to recover it have been developed.

The GAS IS STILL THERE.

And will still be there

WHEN and IF they need it.
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packards42
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 10:04:24 AM

Good for shale gas, i hope Europe can get it producing. but like the articles said, Europe is density with people, and one environment hiccup and it all over.
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FuelBarge
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 9:00:12 AM

It is a great future until Gazprom decides (again) to cut Europe off in a dispute. Europe has been warned and if they choose to trust the Russians will keep the supply lines open, they deserve whatever happens to them.
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FuelOilOH
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 7:43:50 AM

He who has control of gas & oil has control of power and money.
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BKool
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 7:07:42 AM

Russian gas will go to Asia and the Germans will take Iranian gas for E.U.
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Tnerbeel
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 7:07:24 AM

Not good news for those supplied by Gazprom who has been known for using it's monopoly in the region for political purposes.
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AnObserver
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 7:06:28 AM

The easiest gas / oil to recover is the first to be recovered. The natural gas in Europe will be recovered when the current supplies are exhausted and prices start to rise (again)
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LocalSpyGuy
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Alternatives are the answer!
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DieselKat
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 7:00:58 AM

When they need it bad enough they will drill for it.
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jeepman64
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 7:00:31 AM

Toyrunner300, not to mention not as much land either.
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toyrunner300
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:58:54 AM

Not too much water available in Europe.
And since some state are short of water during the summer, I am not sure if it is a good idea to proceed that way for gas, will see what will happen in 10 years, I am pretty sure water will start to get expensive in North America....
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:57:39 AM

keep the gov't out
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:52:36 AM

If they want the gas they will have to drill!
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mk9999
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:52:01 AM

Better drill for anything you can find.
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Cruiser340
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:51:58 AM

so lets drill it and use it to replace oil as fuel.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:49:55 AM

Drill for it. It just makes sense.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:49:27 AM

The gov wants more battery powered cars. Then you have to recycle the batteries. No such setbacks for CNG vehicles.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:47:46 AM

The French and The British use lots of Nuclear Power and the Brit's have no problem drilling in the North Sea for Oil. If natural gas makes economic sense I thnk they'll drill it.
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PurduePete86
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:46:45 AM

And why are not spending money on CNG vehicle conversion and a delivery infrastructure?
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:44:52 AM

I am sure there is some truth in this.
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Rick01
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:43:39 AM

They will have to drill eventually.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:43:38 AM

Good quote, no monkey!
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:42:18 AM

As we sit on our bottoms..we watch others make millions..and we give them money so they can make more..
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:41:42 AM

Oh the US has gas, just look at all the toxic hot air capitol hill pushes onto the country every day.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:40:45 AM

matter of time
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:40:26 AM

they will eventually come around
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:38:39 AM

Made in the USA is a joke when no one is working to make anything. THousands can be drilling for oil, gas, etc but no one is hiring........... So USA motto: Give little & raise the price.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:38:15 AM

I like the comment by REKEY.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:37:37 AM

too many greenies in Europe
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China is going to be like a big giant and take over everything and everybody in it, wait and see, especially the way our government is going at the present time.
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Give it a few years when Chima has all the oil!
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:33:08 AM

when times are tough, that's when the drilling will happen.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:31:20 AM

Once we pump all of our gas out then Europe will be the king of gas.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:31:15 AM

The costs involved to produce natural gas from shale is expensive and will keep many nations from taking on this type of exploration.
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Buy American Made In The USA.
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Too bad for Europe. They will ultimately be blamed for their economic demise.
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like ducks following the leader
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I agree that US gas should stay in the US.
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There must be some potential with 3 big companies already out there.
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Europe continues it's subservience. This is Obama's model for the US.
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How wonderful the Russian gas supplier is happy
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Is Russia on her way back up?
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You get the good with the bad.
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When it runs out in the US, then it will be worth drilling for. Keep our gas in the US and they'll drill sooner and our price will be less!
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:05:33 AM

If it destroys the environment, it's not worth going after.
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 6:05:31 AM

In time they will drill for this shale gas.
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Convert everything from oil based to natural gas.
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