fordmexico

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 2:00:43 PM
Too much expense to implement for the benefit. Leave it at 10% and have E85 as an alternative. Ethanol from corn is too expensive too.
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kelsielee

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:55:13 PM
Not many people outside of ethanol producing states want any increase in the ethanol content.
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Chris46

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 9:47:35 AM
Every little bit helps, I suppose, but at what cost? Poorer gas mileage? Bad for regular gasoline engines? Where does it all stop? Where does it all end?
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psuray

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 7:26:56 AM
Pork barrel legislation for Grassley. Ethanol is less efficient than oil and just raises our costs.
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BH24

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 6:11:19 AM
And from all across the cornfields in Grassley's home state of Iowa, we can hear loud "amens!" Many of the rest of us would prefer to use undiluted 100% petroleum as the fuel of choice.
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ArmydudeNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 3:31:31 AM
Not!
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 2:38:46 AM
this is an attempt to bailout the ethanol firms... Nothing less... It's funny his name is GRASSley...
[Edited by: granitestater at 11/18/2009 3:39:10 AM EST]
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sosgas

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Portland
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:54:44 AM
Bad news ,E-11 , E-12 ,E-20, E............
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la90042

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:53:13 AM
we've helped out the ethanol group enough already. Need to move to more renewable alternative sources that don't impact food supplies and prices.
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Michaelsz06

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:46:43 AM
Stop letting the radicals run everything and start drilling for oil in our own back yards where we already know it is and we can solve all these problems..Changing Ethanol from 10% to 15% isn't going to do it.
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qmyster

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Denver
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:30:58 AM
One day a pit stop is actually your FUEL Tank. It much easy for guy.
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snappyray09

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:30:27 AM
HELP .there at it again.
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speedys

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Utah
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:27:41 AM
Ethanol is not a good fuel for cars.
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rowing

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Macon
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:24:55 AM
he is pushing a Iowa crop
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antur

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:08:05 AM
Actualy I like ethanol, but not in my fuel tank.
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nurdco

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:07:54 AM
He DOES NOT SEE that ETHANOL has NOT caught on... Light your corn cob pipe dummy
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antur

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:03:24 AM
Grassley senator from Iowa. What else he could say?
[Edited by: antur at 11/18/2009 2:05:50 AM EST]
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:03:19 AM
ethanol is NOT a good thing for any motorist !
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:56:15 AM
Major problem with ethanol is the fact that most engines do not run at optimum performance on ethanol, much less more %.
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hwnguy

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:51:11 AM
No more ethanol
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007HS

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:49:30 AM
It is re-election time once again...
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Saturn93

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:44:25 AM
More than half of all the states grow significant amounts of corn. Therefore we will never see Congress vote to get rid of corn based ethanol, and the huge subsidies the taxpayers pay to make ethanol economically viable as a motor fuel. Another government rip-off of consumers and taxpayers.
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spike1zz

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:43:03 AM
I think the corn, uh, ethanol should be left on the cob.
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CoffeeTrader

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:36:17 AM
Senator Grassley must be heavily margined in corn.
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jcurley

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:33:19 AM
Since we us a LOT of gas in this country, even a 1% reduction is a significant amount of ethanol. As long as the ethanol is NOT from corn, then I'm for it. (But Grassley is in it for the corn-based stuff. Follow the money!)
[Edited by: jcurley at 11/18/2009 1:34:03 AM EST]
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:30:49 AM
One more U.S. Senator bought off by ADM and CONAGRA!!!
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:30:15 AM
ItsMorph...Once again, its not edible corn. Thank you.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:28:58 AM
amearly...see earlier postings. I am tired of typing it over and over.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:28:12 AM
250FORD...You couldnt be more wrong on those ASSUMPTIONS.
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amearly

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:28:07 AM
Let's continue to burn up our food supply.
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ItsMorph

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:26:42 AM
Oooooh, ONE percent! Wow! What a life-changer.
How about quit taxing the hell out of everything and then leaving it up to what actually WORKS?
Companies have died because people are so incredibly stupid. Chrysler is one good example. They had a vehicle with a turbine engine that could run on basically ANY fuel DECADES ago!
Editing to add that you idiots who want to use food crops for fuel are just that. Idiots.
[Edited by: ItsMorph at 11/18/2009 1:27:57 AM EST]
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:26:37 AM
masrod...Sadly Grassley is one of the few good things that Iowa has left going for it. The Governor is a whack job and the congressmen are lunatics. Lets not even get into the states supreme court! Better hang on to Grassley or risk getting something like the marxist liberal memebers of the hussien regime moving in. Seems like ol'Chuck is about the only line of common sense left in the state.
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grouch311

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:26:02 AM
rmw1: how is it creating more jobs? all they're gonna do is increase ethanol percentage
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comprof

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:25:32 AM
Gassed01 & Tbone3: You both have it right.
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250FORD

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:25:27 AM
Z51Corvette I'm VERY sorry to hear you were born in Iowa, I will try not to hold it against you. Now back too topic. If you follow the path of corn from the farm to the plant to your tank. you will see that ethanol is very good for you. What seems to be lost in all of this is that the trail does not end in your tank. The chain ends back on the farm. The corn that is used for ethanol has a by product known as distillers grain. These grains are fed to livestock as a VERY good feed stock that is more easily digested and thus cheapens production costs. I can GUARANTEE a 50% instant increase in all meat, dairy and poultry products if ethanol goes away. Burgers, bacon and eggs will go through the roof, MARK MY WORDS.
[Edited by: 250FORD at 11/18/2009 1:26:41 AM EST]
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marinasgrandpa

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:24:58 AM
for all of you who say "not me", you'd better get a grip-this won't be optional-we'll all be stuck with that crap!
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:23:22 AM
Again, God bless the American Farmer. Let them do what helps thier families.
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Edtx2009

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:22:31 AM
Ethanol may not be made from corn you can eat, but that corn is darn sure grown on land that could be producing edible crops.
Ethanol costs more to produce per gallon than gas does and does not deliver as much energy out put as gas, derived and refined from oil does.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:19:44 AM
God bless the American farmers who are for the first time in decades seeing the light at the end of the tunnel due to ethanol. I do not promote or denounce the use of Ethanol but I do think its so awesome to see our real American farming families finally getting a break. Again to those who keep saying it...ETHANOL IS NOT MADE FROM CORN YOU CAN EAT!!!! NO ONE IS GOING TO GO HUNGRY AND FOOD PRICES ARE NOT RISING DUE TO THE CORN USED FOR ETHANOL!! It is non-edible field corn.
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rwm1

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:18:34 AM
Grassley is one of the few Republicans I sometimes agree with. In this case he is right. This will create cleaner emissions and more jobs for Iowa.
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eromitlab

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:17:10 AM
At least Grassley knows that corn is important to Iowa's economy. Ethanol isn't a good place for it, though. I get the impression that big donations from corporate interests speak louder than the corn farmers in Iowa.
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masrod

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:13:53 AM
Grassley, it's time for you to go! Everybody in my family will be voting you out next year!
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cutter1330

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:11:47 AM
Ethanol is a dead issue.
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BT1288

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Lincoln
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:07:36 AM
No corn oil for me.
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:59:38 PM
Grassley is promoting, because it affects his constituents in a big way. I was born in Iowa, but this Ethanol, CRA... is just that "garbage". Have you noticed your fuel economy going down by around 10%. We are not saving fuel at this rate, we are using MORE!!!
Say no to your Congressmen and Senators. This is backwards and is another tax on the American Auto owner.
Grow corn for the world, not for fuel... it's BUNK!
[Edited by: Z51Corvette at 11/18/2009 1:00:08 AM EST]
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genef01

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:58:29 PM
No ethanol! Period!!!!!
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nnick

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:54:54 PM
They should stop with this ethanol already.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:47:08 PM
The EPA wants to put a time bomb in America's gas tanks
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:46:21 PM
More bad news from the EPA.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:39:16 PM
Hydrogen fuel is the future!
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