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Liquid Battery Fuel Will Allow Quick Recharges

Technology Today -- Cambridge Crude, the nickname of a new MIT liquid battery recharging system, might bring the electric vehicle back to dominate the auto industry.

What if a new recharging infrastructure could be developed that lets you pump a liquid electric charge into your EV as fast as a gasoline fill-up?

The MIT researchers have named their new battery design the semi-solid flow cell. In this battery, electric energy is stored as a liquid. When the energy in the liquid runs down, the battery can be restored to full charge by pumping out the old liquid and pumping in a new batch of fully charged liquid. The run down liquid is recharged at the station and reused for the next car.

A prototype will be ready for testing sometime in 2013, and existing EVs could be retrofitted with this battery.


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Submitted Feb 19, 2012 By: GoGoGoodyear
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wrunner
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:36:45 PM

Fascinating!

Soon MIT will start to develop the use of Dilithium crystals, in order to start developing warp speed drive engines.
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joekayak
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:47:44 PM

No mention of how this technology compares with gas or EVS as far as costs and mileage range.
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jorod55
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:19:11 PM

Water to steam and back.

MIT style.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:52:20 PM

Like this.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:00:26 PM

These people should be taking Rx Lithium
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:12:36 PM

Nowhere in this article are the inherent dangers of lithium discussed. I'm sure the MIT researchers are aware of its volatility and take the necessary precautions within the confines of their laboratories.

In the real world, it is one thing to use lithium in sealed batteries; it is an entirely different matter to be handling it (albeit, in a suspension solution) in public venues.

Gasoline is kids stuff compared to the environmental and safety hazards associated with lithium usage--in any form.

I'd think long and hard before getting all eco-infatuated with lithium because of a belief that oil is "evil".
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 5:25:24 PM

Nice article.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 5:23:12 PM

There are nay sayers, there have always been,

But this kind of technology will become a reality.

Hopefully sooner than later.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 3:22:19 PM

BIG OIL & GAS love us

A great concept. Follow the science. Thanks for sharing GoGoGoodyear ;0}

In the mean time

* reduce * reuse * repurpose * recycle *

Recycling rules!

BIG OIL & GAS love us

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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 2:41:48 PM

GoGoElectric!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 12:51:08 PM

They're still going to get you. What do you think they'll charge for the new energy liquid? What do you think they'll charge for a disposal fee for the old liquid being pumped out? They'll also charge taxpayers more to create disposal areas for the pumped out liquid as well as charging the car battery owners. This will be a big money grab for somebody, you can bet on it!!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 12:34:46 PM

Cool idea.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 12:24:43 PM

Really interesting. Let's hope this technology makes it into the real world — current electric vehicle battery technology hasn't progressed much in the last 100 years.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:56:19 AM

Worth exploring the research.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:38:09 AM

Sounds suspiciously like a liquid fuel like say....gasoline. Just another energy commodity for people to create a new business with.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:20:41 AM

WHAT??!! "Research on this new battery
technology has been funded by the
U.S. Department of Defense, U.S.
Department of Energy, and MIT."

That'll upset the Tea Party.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:00:14 AM

What an interesting concept. A galvanic cell separated by membranes in your car.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:51:48 AM

Cool, I like it.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:48:39 AM


Seems electrifying with lots of potential; more power to them.

Thanks for posting!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:46:03 AM

Beats the hell out of swapping entire battery packs. I always felt that EV owners would need two battery packs, one to use while the other charged. The swap out would require a floor jack kind of rig.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:42:43 AM

Interesting. Choice is good!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:41:02 AM

any efficiency is good
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:03:12 AM

This advancement has the potential to be a game changer for the EV.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:24:12 AM

Interesing
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:20:13 AM

Still takes time and is a dangerous toxic fluids.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:16:29 AM

Now that sounds interesting.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:06:58 AM

Concur - it's a waste of money!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:35:44 AM

This is not the answer! This is going to get very expensive in the l-o-n-g term. The item to be recharged is always going to take energy of some form or another to do the charging. Nice try, I like the effort but the results are not there for this one. I agree, KaBoom.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:31:21 AM

Still not interested in an EV or a Hybrid EV.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:25:38 AM

Basically its electrolyte exchange, nice! But we need to know more about the chemistry than the article tells us. This could really work if there are no or limited negative enviromental impacts of a spill. Good post.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:25:14 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:24:09 AM

Good, keep developing the technology.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 8:16:33 AM

Fits in nicely with all the unused EV charging parking spots we read about.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:59:03 AM

ok
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Kaboom; no thanks!
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Dejavu
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:45:32 AM

This is great news and makes the naysayers look bad already.
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Keep looking there is a way.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:39:45 AM

hope it works
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ok
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People are thinking. Lets see where it goes.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:28:45 AM

Okay
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how thrilling, but not in my lifetime i think.
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Go electric with USA made electricity!
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:22:56 AM

Coming from MIT, I would expect this to have potential. But, as always, there are many questions still be answered.
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Wow Joeski1, you must be a paid promoter for EV/hybrids. To bad there are numerous problems not being addressed by either vehicles that are monumental.
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 7:13:42 AM

bring it on!!

I want an EV for my next vehicle...

(or a hybrid car that gets 60MPG or better....)

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What is the projected life and most important, the cost.
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Will wonders ever cease? Something useful from Mass. P S: great post, JamesCalvin.
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Just don't spill any on ya'!

OH I forgot!

We will have OSHA, EPA, Homeland Security, Dept of Education, FEMA all to protect us with expensive procedures to make the dream of electric vehicles cost prohibitive!

All to protect the children! Forgot the CPS in the list above!

[Edited by: JamesCalvin at 2/19/2012 7:59:20 AM EST]
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