acvw74

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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 6:33:05 AM
Interesting
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mike1881

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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 4:07:05 AM
I like the theory, but big oil companies will never let this happen. I am sure they would "donate" billions to the president's campaign fund.
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jimgraham

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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 12:24:42 AM
Sounds good to me.
Ummmm - Does milk burn???
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chuckwthompson

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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 12:16:51 AM
Great article...If cars could run on hot air, we would have an endless supply from DC.
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apiergallini

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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2012 12:02:50 AM
@doggod
Sure, if the free market is allowed to function unhindered, manufacturers will make flex fuel vehicles to meet demand. The problem is that there are other interests, such as those of big oil, who influence manufacturers. If they can get auto makers to NOT make flex fuel vehicles, then demand won't be met, and some people may just think that there's low demand for it. Sometimes it DOES "take another fiat from the coercive sector to make the voluntary marketplace work."
Just like in the article, when a company/group has power, as the dairy industry in NY did, then they will do what they can to protect their profits and business models. I'm sure the oil industry is doing everything they can to slow do the adoption of hybrids, EVs, flex fuel, etc., so they can keep their record profits going a little longer.
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johnd900

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 11:03:48 PM
Flex-fuel is a winner for the US. US Gov't should require import companies to add Flex to some percentage of their vehicles sold here. That would get consumers buying them eventually. Then the methanol production would increase due to the demand. Thus reducing the usage of gasoline. Then US companies would produce FF vehicles in higher numbers.
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davenles

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 10:44:07 PM
I'm all for free enterprise.
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livable1

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 10:37:15 PM
Hummmmmm
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ExplorerWA

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 9:27:28 PM
He makes some very good points that all Americans know. Let's do the right things we know will work and demand our leaders do it now we before they lead us to the Greatest Depression and into war.
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BuckyTJones

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 8:37:14 PM
Great article doeslayersr! It takes a "Milk Man" to come up with great ideas that would be for the good of the country.
Throw out the garbage and lets hire some milk men in November.
Quote of the Day: You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook. - Harry S Truman
[Edited by: BuckyTJones at 2/7/2012 9:38:06 PM EST]
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jjjleblanc

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 8:36:06 PM
Good answer.
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IwanFL

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 8:35:36 PM
cool
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Meowmy

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 8:29:56 PM
Switch to algae-based bio-fuels and that'll take care of at least 70% of our 'foreign' oil imports.
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Charley_7

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 7:49:50 PM
Fuel competition. Taken to the cars. So, taken to the extreme, a car can run on gasoline, electricity, natural gas, and whatever else that can be thrown at that the technology exists for?
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rbrk02

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 7:33:50 PM
doeslayersr, good comment. Interesting article. Thanks for posting it.
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vjs3

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 7:22:59 PM
What do they say about something that sounds too good to be true?
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bullman68

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 6:43:22 PM
Sounds simple.
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playtimeCLE

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 5:41:54 PM
I like the flex fuel idea, & agree that the subsidies need to end.
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doggod

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 4:38:08 PM
If there's a big demand for flex-fuel vehicles, manufacturers will gladly make them. It doesn't take another fiat from the coercive sector to make the voluntary marketplace work. It just takes vehicles that make sense dollar-wise.
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doeslayersr

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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2012 4:00:53 PM
As long as it is done with private sector dollars (investment dollars, not tax payer dollars), then let market demand decide what survives.
Eliminate the tax credits and rebates for electric and hybrid electric vehicles.
Do not subsidize the development or distribution of any vehicle or fuel.
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