rightofway673

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:15:43 AM
Great news
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la90042

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:54:34 AM
good for them. Need more of these improvements.
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krisli

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:51:31 AM
Good.
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sosgas

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Portland
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:47:12 AM
Great!
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jadeusa

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:59:50 AM
Clean diesel has been driven in Europe, so this isn't a surprise. Buses should be converted to CNG -compressed natural gas- which is a clean fuel and in far more abundance than fossil fuels.
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hwnguy

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:51:58 AM
How many people have Macks
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007HS

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:48:11 AM
Yes, they will be soon hooking breathing O2 tanks up to the exhaust on these vehicles to save money for senior citizens needing O2 and saving the Gov. money on health care.
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:46:42 AM
wow; they're two months ahead of deadline. good for them; does it help us all?
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Saturn93

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:46:07 AM
Good for them. How much ethanol are THEY blending into diesel fuel?
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spike1zz

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:44:20 AM
How much money will that save me?
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:40:05 AM
Oil is no longer considered a fossil fuel. Regardless, the noise, smell, black smoke, and hard starts in cold weather would make me walk away from diesel in a heart beat. Not even a consideration.
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Vaiobum

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:39:10 AM
It was just a matter of time. They've been working on this for a long time. As for black smoke from exhaust - that's unburned fuel.
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CoffeeTrader

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:37:44 AM
See...it can be done if it has to.
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amearly

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:30:22 AM
I guess we better stop using diesel fuel than. Can't have this because that means we would have to produce more fossil fuel.
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Sody33

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:30:20 AM
Good to hear.
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grouch311

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:29:31 AM
a lot of times that black smoke is an indication of a badly maintained engine. it probably needs the equivelant of a tune-up
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:28:51 AM
At last the diesel engine manufacturers are getting close to the promise of Dr. Diesel's process. Shameful that it was only international regulations that forced them to both improve and clean-up the dangerously unhealthy particulate emissions. They do not deserve any awards for improvements they should have made 50 years ago!
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jcurley

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:26:57 AM
Congrats to them. One small step towards cleaner air!
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Edtx2009

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:24:43 AM
This, I have got to see.
All diesel trucks I remember seeing on the highways have an exhaust high above the truck (where the driver is not bothered by the smell) belching out black smoke.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:22:17 AM
What are they nuts!? Please, the stench alone will have people vomiting in the streets, not to mention the incesent racket they make. NO THANK YOU!!
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comprof

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:20:29 AM
Good for Mack and Volvo.
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cutter1330

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:14:23 AM
Never thought "clean" and "diesel" would be in the same sentence.
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Amtrgas

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:11:23 AM
Cleaner air is always good. Maybe there is hope for mankind.
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MRED3

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:00:13 PM
Sounds like sum good news today.
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rodzilla123

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:58:49 PM
Sounds like CATERPILLAR and DETROIT Diesel have some catching up to do. Or, maby some reverse engineering to do, Like the Japs and Chinese do. I love competition.
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greatscot08

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:56:39 PM
OK, now everybody run out and buy a Big Mac, opps I thought you were taking about sandwiches.... oh well, good for Mack/Volvo Trucks
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zeddieiv

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:54:14 PM
If you want to improve the air in LA maybe you should pay the people to relocate.
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FastAndy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:53:53 PM
That is great but I wonder if trucks could run on something other than imported oil.
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YumaKacz

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:48:25 PM
Glad to see someone is doing something to clean up the bad air in LA.
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danreino

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:44:32 PM
Propane is the future of North American trucking.
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TBRR

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:33:21 PM
with a little luck they can transfer the clean technology to a smaller diesel engine for use in light trucks and small cars. europe is way ahead of the auto industry in this country.
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:32:21 PM
So should I run right out and buy a Mack to commute to work?
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NavyStore

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:31:44 PM
WCurtis - can't argue with logic like that...
After all, plant life would never have evolved without those old Buicks and Fords running on dinosaur juice. So that means you are a creationist? (Oops.. sorry, 'Intelligent Designer'... LOL!!)
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unicornpmb

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:28:26 PM
Great, but I would still rather have a "Big mac".
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yclookout

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:25:25 PM
That is good news for everyone, heavy trucks like these engines move haul most of our goods.
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waynemustang

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:25:15 PM
Good, run the exhaust into your house to keep it warm.
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woodeye55

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Gary
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:22:46 PM
I always wanted a Mack engine in my Chevy Malibu.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:18:24 PM
GM is a long way from this one
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Chris46

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:12:45 PM
Wonderful! Now lets get a car that doesn't cost an arm and a leg (Mercedes) to buy (Mercedes) and maintain (Mercedes)!!
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:12:45 PM
hank1326 wrote:
>Great for Mack and Volvo. Just hope the DC morons are out >of the decision loop.
It would be even better if we could get the CARB morons out of the loop.
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:11:20 PM
This is a move in the right direction. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
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graceman

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:10:00 PM
Good for them.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:07:11 PM
DEG wrote:
>We need the clean burning diesel engines in cars for sale >in the US.
You've already got them. Mercedes makes them.
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FordF2502001

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:04:09 PM
awesome, this will go a long way in saving America
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FXRider94

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:03:59 PM
Good job, Mack and Volvo. Good for diesel's future.
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heysailor

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:59:30 PM
Good for Mack!
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Jeannemarie

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:49:22 PM
Great for Mack. Can you eat off them yet?????
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georgeo

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:46:45 PM
Need to build a scaled down version for use in autos.
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hank1326

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:44:06 PM
Great for Mack and Volvo. Just hope the DC morons are out of the decision loop.
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YLHandyman

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:43:13 PM
Great news from these two makers.
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