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Todays Trucking.com -- GREENSBORO, N.C. -- Mack Trucks and Volvo Trucks North America recently had their diesel engines certified by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board to meet the near-zero emissions standards which take effect in January 2010.

The Mack MP7 and MP8 engines are now officially recognized to meet the strict new diesel emissions standards, while Volvo’s D11 and D13 engines have been certified. All the engines have been fully certified to meet EPA’s stringent standards without the use of emissions credits.
The truck and engine makers are the first truck manufacturers to have heavy-duty diesel engines certified for 2010 by both EPA and CARB.

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Submitted Nov 17, 2009 By: liltruckman

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rightofway673 All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:660 Points:1,567,595 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 5:15:43 AM Ignore rightofway673 Report Abuse Great news
la90042 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,402 Points:505,405 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:54:34 AM Ignore la90042 Report Abuse good for them. Need more of these improvements.
sosgas All-Star Author Portland Posts:526 Points:251,910 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 1:47:12 AM Ignore sosgas Report Abuse Great!
jadeusa Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,266 Points:871,410 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:59:50 AM Ignore jadeusa Report Abuse Clean diesel has been driven in Europe, so this isn't a surprise. Buses should be converted to CNG -compressed natural gas- which is a clean fuel and in far more abundance than fossil fuels.
hwnguy Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,977 Points:644,100 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:51:58 AM Ignore hwnguy Report Abuse How many people have Macks
007HS Champion Author California Posts:6,959 Points:1,852,135 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:48:11 AM Ignore 007HS Report Abuse Yes, they will be soon hooking breathing O2 tanks up to the exhaust on these vehicles to save money for senior citizens needing O2 and saving the Gov. money on health care.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:6,303 Points:717,270 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:46:42 AM Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse wow; they're two months ahead of deadline. good for them; does it help us all?
Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,220 Points:1,010,765 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:46:07 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse Good for them. How much ethanol are THEY blending into diesel fuel?
spike1zz Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,160 Points:643,570 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:44:20 AM Ignore spike1zz Report Abuse How much money will that save me?
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:7,648 Points:615,180 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:40:05 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Oil is no longer considered a fossil fuel. Regardless, the noise, smell, black smoke, and hard starts in cold weather would make me walk away from diesel in a heart beat. Not even a consideration.
Vaiobum Rookie Author Ontario Posts:27 Points:1,640 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:39:10 AM Ignore Vaiobum Report Abuse It was just a matter of time. They've been working on this for a long time. As for black smoke from exhaust - that's unburned fuel.
CoffeeTrader Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,412 Points:443,680 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:37:44 AM Ignore CoffeeTrader Report Abuse See...it can be done if it has to.
amearly Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,191 Points:1,494,520 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:30:22 AM Ignore amearly Report Abuse I guess we better stop using diesel fuel than. Can't have this because that means we would have to produce more fossil fuel.
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:13,060 Points:1,502,750 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:30:20 AM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse Good to hear.
grouch311 Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,039 Points:670,980 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:29:31 AM Ignore grouch311 Report Abuse a lot of times that black smoke is an indication of a badly maintained engine. it probably needs the equivelant of a tune-up
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,991 Points:665,820 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:28:51 AM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse At last the diesel engine manufacturers are getting close to the promise of Dr. Diesel's process. Shameful that it was only international regulations that forced them to both improve and clean-up the dangerously unhealthy particulate emissions. They do not deserve any awards for improvements they should have made 50 years ago!
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:3,392 Points:834,915 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:26:57 AM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse Congrats to them. One small step towards cleaner air!
Edtx2009 Champion Author Houston Posts:1,295 Points:267,340 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:24:43 AM Ignore Edtx2009 Report Abuse This, I have got to see. All diesel trucks I remember seeing on the highways have an exhaust high above the truck (where the driver is not bothered by the smell) belching out black smoke.
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:7,648 Points:615,180 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:22:17 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse What are they nuts!? Please, the stench alone will have people vomiting in the streets, not to mention the incesent racket they make. NO THANK YOU!!
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:1,769 Points:387,300 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:20:29 AM Ignore comprof Report Abuse Good for Mack and Volvo.
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,121 Points:718,085 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:14:23 AM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse Never thought "clean" and "diesel" would be in the same sentence.
Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,138 Points:783,415 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 18, 2009 12:11:23 AM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse Cleaner air is always good. Maybe there is hope for mankind.
MRED3 Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:2,240 Points:439,020 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 11:00:13 PM Ignore MRED3 Report Abuse Sounds like sum good news today.
rodzilla123 All-Star Author San Diego Posts:939 Points:286,735 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:58:49 PM Ignore rodzilla123 Report Abuse Sounds like CATERPILLAR and DETROIT Diesel have some catching up to do. Or, maby some reverse engineering to do, Like the Japs and Chinese do. I love competition.
greatscot08 All-Star Author Columbus Posts:944 Points:187,460 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:56:39 PM Ignore greatscot08 Report Abuse OK, now everybody run out and buy a Big Mac, opps I thought you were taking about sandwiches.... oh well, good for Mack/Volvo Trucks
zeddieiv Champion Author Columbia Posts:3,563 Points:1,064,045 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:54:14 PM Ignore zeddieiv Report Abuse If you want to improve the air in LA maybe you should pay the people to relocate.
FastAndy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:4,216 Points:1,112,570 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:53:53 PM Ignore FastAndy Report Abuse That is great but I wonder if trucks could run on something other than imported oil.
YumaKacz Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,754 Points:663,370 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:48:25 PM Ignore YumaKacz Report Abuse Glad to see someone is doing something to clean up the bad air in LA.
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,785 Points:675,095 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:44:32 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Propane is the future of North American trucking.
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,323 Points:233,745 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:33:21 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse with a little luck they can transfer the clean technology to a smaller diesel engine for use in light trucks and small cars. europe is way ahead of the auto industry in this country.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:14,839 Points:1,943,685 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:32:21 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse So should I run right out and buy a Mack to commute to work?
NavyStore Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,681 Points:1,184,325 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:31:44 PM Ignore NavyStore Report Abuse WCurtis - can't argue with logic like that... After all, plant life would never have evolved without those old Buicks and Fords running on dinosaur juice. So that means you are a creationist? (Oops.. sorry, 'Intelligent Designer'... LOL!!)
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:3,522 Points:649,375 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:28:26 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse Great, but I would still rather have a "Big mac".
yclookout Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,105 Points:404,200 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:25:25 PM Ignore yclookout Report Abuse That is good news for everyone, heavy trucks like these engines move haul most of our goods.
waynemustang Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,203 Points:840,300 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:25:15 PM Ignore waynemustang Report Abuse Good, run the exhaust into your house to keep it warm.
woodeye55 Champion Author Gary Posts:2,275 Points:899,600 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:22:46 PM Ignore woodeye55 Report Abuse I always wanted a Mack engine in my Chevy Malibu.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,566 Points:793,340 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:18:24 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse GM is a long way from this one
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:11,012 Points:1,246,340 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:12:45 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse Wonderful! Now lets get a car that doesn't cost an arm and a leg (Mercedes) to buy (Mercedes) and maintain (Mercedes)!!
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:31,998 Points:1,294,270 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:12:45 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse hank1326 wrote: >Great for Mack and Volvo. Just hope the DC morons are out >of the decision loop. It would be even better if we could get the CARB morons out of the loop.
Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:6,600 Points:1,380,015 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:11:20 PM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse This is a move in the right direction. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
graceman Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,268 Points:427,700 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:10:00 PM Ignore graceman Report Abuse Good for them.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:31,998 Points:1,294,270 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:07:11 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse DEG wrote: >We need the clean burning diesel engines in cars for sale >in the US. You've already got them. Mercedes makes them.
FordF2502001 Champion Author Mississippi Posts:3,051 Points:663,900 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:04:09 PM Ignore FordF2502001 Report Abuse awesome, this will go a long way in saving America
FXRider94 Sophomore Author New Jersey Posts:174 Points:365,235 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 10:03:59 PM Ignore FXRider94 Report Abuse Good job, Mack and Volvo. Good for diesel's future.
heysailor Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:4,650 Points:1,355,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:59:30 PM Ignore heysailor Report Abuse Good for Mack!
Jeannemarie Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:24,712 Points:1,637,625 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:49:22 PM Ignore Jeannemarie Report Abuse Great for Mack. Can you eat off them yet?????
georgeo Champion Author California Posts:2,496 Points:101,610 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:46:45 PM Ignore georgeo Report Abuse Need to build a scaled down version for use in autos.
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,089 Points:769,200 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:44:06 PM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse Great for Mack and Volvo. Just hope the DC morons are out of the decision loop.
YLHandyman Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,589 Points:830,745 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:43:13 PM Ignore YLHandyman Report Abuse Great news from these two makers.
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:12,082 Points:700,150 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2009 9:42:12 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse WCCurtis, the world will always have CO2. Even tens of thousands of years ago there was CO2 in nature.